What has Al Gore done for world peace?
Damian Thompson
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So Al Gore is the joint winner of the Nobel Peace
Prize. Admittedly, he has to share it with the United Nations’
climate change panel - but, even so, I think we need to declare an
international smugness alert.
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The former US Vice-President has already taken over
from Michael Moore as the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the
planet. Can you imagine what he'll be like now that the Norwegian
Nobel committee has given him the prize?
More to the point, can you imagine how enormous his
already massive carbon footprint will become once he starts jetting
around the world bragging about his new title?
Just after Gore won an Oscar for his global warming
documentary, An Inconvenient Truth - in which he asked American
households to cut their use of electricity - the Tennessee Centre
for Policy Research took a look at Al's energy bills.
It reckoned that his 20-room, eight-bathroom mansion
in Nashville sometimes uses twice the energy in one month that the
average American household gets through in a year. The combined
energy and gas bills for his estate came to nearly $30,000 in 2006.
Ah, say his defenders, but he uses rainwater to flush his
lavatories. Is there enough rainwater in the world, I wonder?
There are so many reasons why Gore shouldn't have
won the peace prize for his preachiness. Alas, it is too late to
influence their decision, but I'd have liked to refer the judges to
a ruling by Mr Justice Burton, a High Court judge who has criticised
the Government for sending out An Inconvenient Truth to schools
without a health warning. The reason? It's full of errors and
unsubstantiated claims.
The judge is not saying that Gore's basic thesis is
wrong (and nor am I). In a way, his findings are more damning than
that.
Gore claims that the rises in carbon dioxide and
temperature over 650,000 years show an "exact fit". That's wrong,
says Mr Justice Burton: there is a connection, but not a precise
correlation.
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Gore predicts sea levels rising by up to 20ft in the
near future. Not so, according to the judge: that will happen only
after millions of years.
Those low-lying Pacific atolls that Gore claims have
been evacuated? No evidence. Polar bears who drowned swimming to
look for ice? Again, no evidence: four bears have drowned - but
because of a storm.
None of which will surprise seasoned Gore-watchers.
The man is not, as his enemies maintained when he ran against George
W. Bush in 2000, a pants-on-fire liar. He's an exaggerator and a
braggart.
He never claimed to have invented the internet; he
said he "took the initiative in creating the internet", which is
about a quarter true - he was among the first congressmen to support
the invention.
In 1999, he boasted about having uncovered the most
famous toxic waste site in America ("I found a little place in
upstate New York called Love Canal"). Yes, but Love Canal was
already notorious by the time Gore "found" it.
That's typical of his arrogance, says the
non-partisan US politics website Skeleton Closet: "When he says the
words 'little place', you can feel him struggling to contain his
pleasure with his good deeds."
Gore struggles with his memory, too. "I certainly
learnt a lot from 3,000 town hall meetings across …Tennessee over a
16-year period," he told National Public Radio. And so he would
have, had he actually attended 187 town hall meetings a year, which
is what it works out as: he might even have managed to hold his home
state in 2000.
But my favourite Gore memory lapse is his account of
being sung to sleep with the lullaby Look for the Union Label,
written in 1975. How sweet: being sung to sleep by your parents at
the age of 27.
Then there's his evasiveness on the subject of
alleged ethical violations. He resorts to "legalisms", says Skeleton
Closet: although he might technically be in the right, "he has such
a tin ear for the way normal people talk that he sounds like a mafia
don".
But there is a more fundamental objection to
awarding Gore the peace prize that goes beyond issues of character.
Climate change is a threat to the environment, not to "peace" and
international order. The prize has gone to some sleazy recipients in
the past, but at least you can make a case that their actions staved
off bloodshed.
Lumping together global warming and terrorism, as
David Cameron did in his conference speech, is a rhetorical sleight
of hand typical of opportunistic politicians who are trying to
hoover up liberal and conservative votes at the same time. I don't
think that description applies to the Tory leader, but it sure as
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This is why I will never take the Nobel Peace Prize
seriously anymore.
Posted by Tammy, USA on October 12, 2007
6:59 PM
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Any right thinking conservative knows the Nobel Peace Prize
should have gone to American radio spewer Rush Limbaugh.
Posted by
kar on October 12, 2007 6:58 PM
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That's the Nobel Peace Prize totally devalued for everyone
else who has ever won it then.
Posted by Andy Moore on October 12,
2007 6:45 PM
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Thanks GOD someone "over there" gets it!!! Thank you,
Damian, for re-exposing this blow hard for what he truly is...never
could've said it better myself.
Tom S.
A frustrated,
conservative Yank.
Posted by Tom Sierak on October 12, 2007 5:42 PM
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What on earth is the Nobel Committee going to do when it
doesn't have George Bush to kick around any more? One more silly Season,
Nobelites, and then you have to think of someone serious. One more failed
Democrat in 2008, then it is (I hope) back to the real world.
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by Michael Mates on October 12, 2007 5:29 PM
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Ah well I suppose they have got to choose someone. What do
they do - place the names of a number of outspoken people in a hat and
then pull one out?
Posted by Malcolm on October 12, 2007 5:27
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Al Gore is a total idiot. He historically takes a very
small bit of realty to a ridicilous and technically incorrect conclusion.
After all, he is the same person who has claimed to have invented the
Internet. He is a legend in his own mind!
Also - what does his global
warming issues have to do with world peace anyway? His Nobel Peace Prize
is supported by the same type of feel good mentality idiots that take his
warped conclusions for fact.
Posted by jd on October 12, 2007 5:26
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I'm not suprised the Nobel gang gave Al Gore their award,
he's green on the outside and red under the skin with a yellow streak up
his back. Just another excuse to attack America.
Posted by Borough
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Please, please stop perpetuating the myth that Algore won
an Oscar. He didn't - the producer did. This is simply further validation
that the Nobel prize is worthless.
Posted by Vito on October 12,
2007 5:16 PM
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The real danger mankind faces is Man Bear Pig, half man,
half bear and half pig. I am super serial!
Posted by M Sorken on
October 12, 2007 4:58 PM
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I thought the Nobel Peace Prize was for someone or some
organisation which had promoted and even brought lasting peace somewhere
in the world -- the prize to Al Gore and the UN Panel should have been
awarded (if at all) in another category.
Perhaps someone should
explain the word Peace to the Norwegians!!!!
Posted by Chips
Westwood on October 12, 2007 4:55 PM
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Who on earth is Al Gore?
Posted by Peter, Cambridge
on October 12, 2007 4:47 PM
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I wonder what the effects of implementing Gore's solutions
would be on international peace: drastically reducing economic
productivity, stunted capital investment in developing countries, relapses
into an era where the whole world is the third world...
Global warming
may be an issue, but we need some more creative solutions than Gore
posits. Bjorn Lomborg is worth a read.
Posted by Sam on October 12, 2007 4:47 PM
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I'd have more respect for Al Gore if he would downsize his
extreme life of luxury. I would be more open-minded to the manmade global
warming "THEORY" if liberals would acknowledge the extreme carbon
footprint their "Nobel" leaders blatantly display. A Hypocrite Prize
anyone?
Posted by John OLeary on October 12, 2007 4:37
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The only consolation is that there are no meaningless,
overhyped prizes left for Gore to win. I was going to say "unless the
Brits knight him," but I still consider having the elderly and politically
powerless Queen touch some 60-year-old's well-padded shoulders with a
sword to be a meaningful prize in comparison to the Oscar and the Nobel.
Arise, Sir Lardbutt!
Posted by Miss Orange on October 12, 2007 4:37
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OH MY! The postings offer an outlet for all right-wing
nutjobs to bash Gore. Now, go back to drooling over your pin up of Anne
Coulter. Drooooool! Pant pant pant.
Posted by Benny Waller on
October 12, 2007 4:35 PM
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When I heard the news, the first question occured to me:
Why him?
He's a bloody politic-n involved in power games!!! What has
he done to stop war in Iraq? He's never been in strong confrontation with
US government as Michal Moore's been?
Prince Charles was speaking
about Global Warming and climate change for ages, why wouldn't they pick
him? It is a really strange choice ...
Posted by Olga on October
12, 2007 4:27 PM
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What in the name of all that's holy has eco-mentalist
campaigning got to do with world peace?
Posted by O Zangado on
October 12, 2007 4:21 PM
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Wow, you were able to work in the "Al Gore is fat!!1!!!!1!"
motif in your third sentence. That's good, but a true wingnut would have
found a way to lead off with it. Keep trying.
Posted by Anthony Cartouche on October 12, 2007 4:15
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Tony Blair must be a shoe in for next year, unless he's
elected Pope first.
Posted by Percy on October 12, 2007 4:13
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Beautifully done Nobel Prize committee !
Thak you
so much for confirming the existence of the global socialist control plan
that masquerades as the Global Warming Scare.
Run for President
Al, please, please please. Get the nomination and then choose Hillary as
your running mate. Please, please, please.
Posted by pablo
an ex pat on October 12, 2007 4:06 PM
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I was amused by reading many of the comments about Gore
from individuals who obviously have no scientific background. Reminds me
of the idiots from the not too distant past who were convinced that the
earth was flat. The vast majority of scientists agree with the basic
points asserted by Gore in his book. Furthermore, undisputable evidence
from satellite photographs demonstrate that the ice in polar regions and
other areas is melting at unprecedented rates. Notwithstanding all of this
evidence, it is obvious that many will keep their heads stuck in the sand.
Does Gore have all of the answers? Of course, not. However, at least he
has helped bring global attention to a global crisis.
Posted by Ted
Theus on October 12, 2007 3:54 PM
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Every so often a new religion emerges. The new belief
system is called 'climate change'.
Population growth will ensure that
this will run and run!
Posted by Robert on October 12, 2007 3:52
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Should've been in the science category.
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Posted by Left-wing Infidel on October 12,
2007 3:50 PM
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What's with you Euros anyway? Just when we think the Nobel
comittee couldn't sink any lower than giving the peace prize to Carter and
Arafat you inflict this self serving blowhard on the world with what used
to be a prestigious award. At least you can ship him home...we're stuck
with him.
Posted by Steve, Colorado on October 12, 2007 3:49
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The award is correct but the press got the spelling wrong.
The prize is the Nobel Piece Prize and is awarded for the biggest most
unadulterated piece of crap ever espoused.
I'm sure most of you agree
that this is fully justified and that Al deserves the
recognition.
Posted by Geoff Turner on October 12, 2007 3:43
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R.I.P. Here lays the once prestigious Nobel Prize -
brought low by the political machinations of a 'snake-oil' charlatan
proving, once and for all that, any and all foolishness will be believed
by a large number of similarly foolish people!
Modern advertising
and 'spin' can make anything believable - while, all the time, truth lays
bleeding to death in the corner!
Posted by Roy Anderson on
October 12, 2007 3:42 PM
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Climate change allows lazy underachievers to claim the
moral high ground, by explaining their lack of achievement as a moral
decision to avoid any activity which would create a large carbon
footprint.
Hilarious last paragraph about Cameron. Yeah, just
because Cameron uses the tools of opportunistic political scum does not
rule out the possibility he is a nice guy. Hmmm.
Posted by Eric Worrall on October 12, 2007 3:42 PM
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From the perspectives of many of us on the western shores
of the Atlantic, Al Gore joins John Kerry as being an empty suit, full of
sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Posted by Dennis Eagan on
October 12, 2007 3:37 PM
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Sure beats the alternative of Tony Bliar being awarded the
Nobel Peasce Prize for crafting the Northern Ireland peace accord - but
stay tuned on that one, Cherie and his financial backers may buy it for
him yet!
Posted by MikeW on October 12, 2007 3:30 PM
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Heaven help us all if Gore gets a Nobel peace prize.
Climate change is the latest "Hobgoblin" which, according to Mencken
is a fear factor developed by politicians to scare their electorate and it
comes with the rider that only they (politicians) can save us from
it!!
Posted by George Lindsay on October 12, 2007 3:27
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"...lardbut..." This yank loved your column. I fear that
both of our countries are paying for the abysmal education system which
those of the babbling persuation have fosted upon us. Hopefully, logic
will prevail. Currently, it does not.
Posted by Mike G on October
12, 2007 3:20 PM
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Another disgraceful wasye of a prestigeous award. A repeat
of the Jimmy Carter fiasco. One, the worst Vice President, and the other
the VERY worst President of the United States in the history of the
country.
Posted by Dr. H. William Winstanley on October 12, 2007
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The Nobel Peace Prize was given for raising awareness of
Global Warming. It would be ludicrous if the Nobel commission withheld
prizes based on smugness or political banter. And Gore would probably do
more good worldwide, realistically, by continuing to raise awareness even
by maintaining the carbon footprint that all celebrities and politicians
share, while working to reduce it in the mainstream where the difference
would be enormous. This article seems petty and immature.
Posted by
Bill on October 12, 2007 3:07 PM
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Certainly the attack is mean-spirited. But the Nobel prize
going to Gore is absolute proof that the prizes are given for political
reasons, not merit.
Brien Comerford, sometimes other people have
other causes that are just as important as yours.
Posted by Bu on u
on October 12, 2007 3:05 PM
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Al Gore just won the the Great Politically Correct award -
given to all the best "PC" people. The Nobel Prize is becoming a joke.
Please tell me how a life-long politician riding the latest fad
contributes to world peace?
Posted by Paul, New York on October 12,
2007 3:02 PM
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How nice to be reminded that you have smug,
clueless
right-wing fools over there, just like we do!
Thanks for that, chaps.
Posted by Ben W. Dickinson on October 12, 2007 2:55 PM
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The world is one big public relations exercise - nothing is
sacred. It's all about 'who's story do you buy?' not facts.
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by Cayrob on October 12, 2007 2:55 PM
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For those of you complaining that the Nobel Prizes are
Swedish and not Norewegian - you are right! Except.....
From the
Nobel Prize official website:-
Send Us Your Questions about the
Nobel Peace Prize
If you have ever wanted to know anything
about the Nobel Peace Prize, then now is your chance to ask a member of
the Prize-Awarding Committee. Professor Geir Lundestad, Secretary of the
Norwegian Nobel Committee, has kindly agreed to answer any question you
might have on the Peace Prize.
Posted by flook1 on October 12,
2007 2:49 PM
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It is good Gore is on top of global warming. He will weed
out the suckers for us all. I have made a lot of money off suckers. So
have Blair/Brown.
Posted by Pam on October 12, 2007 2:49
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To Alan Braggins 10.18 am. Are you implying that the theory
of man-made global warming has been * tested *? If so, where was the
control group?
Posted by Brenda on October 12, 2007 2:48
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"The former US Vice-President has already taken over from
Michael Moore as the most sanctimonious lardbutt Yank on the planet."
Only because Jimmy Carter isn't a lardbutt. On behalf of all Yanks
everywhere, I'd like to apologize for Algore.
The Nobel Peace
Prize is a joke, and it has been at least since Yasser Arafat won it.
Posted by JB on October 12, 2007 2:45 PM
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They should start calling the prizes 'Nobel Prize A' and
'Nobel Prize B' or something if
they're going to hand out the 'peace'
price for whatever the hot political topic of the day
is (no pun
intended). Perhaps they meant 'piece' prize as Al only got a piece of it
and
had to share.
It's a shame that the peace prize every year
takes all the limelight and the other prizes,
most of which are
actually handed out according to the name of the price, get little
mention.
As the Nobel Institute continues to do this it will
only devalue itself.
Posted by warm and toasty on October 12, 2007
2:38 PM
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As a sanctimonious lardbutt Yank, I resent being linked
with Al Gore. Even we sanctimonious lardbutt Yanks have our standards.
Posted by B. Lane on October 12, 2007 2:36 PM
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If it wasn't already obvious (after Jimmy Carter was give
one solely to slam Bush): The Nobel Prize is now a complete
joke.
Posted by Napolean Dynamite on October 12, 2007 2:36
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Sour Grapes! Who cares who gets the credit as long as the
messages gets out and gets everyone on board!
Posted by John chapman
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Adrian Kent
Various university & media groups did
their own recounts, Gore still lost, get over it.
Posted by Stan
(Expat) on October 12, 2007 2:23 PM
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Well it's a done deal, who next T Blair?
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Conkeyron on October 12, 2007 2:19 PM
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Seems that for once, The Guardian makes
more sense than the Telegraph on this one.
Why is it that global
warming deniers flock to The Telegraph? Admittedly, no British newspaper
has much coverage of scientific issues, but the Telegraph is not as bad as
most.
Posted by Alex, Tunbridge Wells on October 12, 2007 2:18
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How many folks here who are dissing global warming as a
leftist conspiracy are actually climate scientists?
Posted by Taoa
on October 12, 2007 2:13 PM
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Yes - What has Al Gore done for world peace?
A
Politician supported by the United Nations climate change panel, more
politicians.
Just living in this country should suggest the
reliability of any politician is not up there with the true believers in
peace.
As for world peace?
Posted by Ian on October 12,
2007 2:00 PM
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Global warming believers WANT to believe that evil man is
killing the planet. Tells you something about their empty and weak minds.
They want everybody to be as miserable as they are.
Posted by
Jeff on October 12, 2007 1:57 PM
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Judge, expert in Law not Science.
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Brian on October 12, 2007 1:56 PM
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After last year awarding the literature prize to that
nutbag Harold Pinter, this award shows just how
barmy the whole
Nobel racket has become.
Next year, Michael Moore? Bono? Sheryl Crowe?
Basil Brush?
Posted by jonathan anthony on October 12, 2007 1:51
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First the religious terrorist then the socialist
terrorists....
Posted by Freeman on October 12, 2007 1:49
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When I heard he had won a Nobel Prize I assumed it was for
Science Fiction. He seems to have a somewhat erroneous memory like another
politician who liked to ingratiate himself Big Time over
here.
Posted by Nick R on October 12, 2007 1:44 PM
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This just proves there are human-hating, screwball
socialists on the Nobel commitee. Arafat anyone?
Posted by Judith on
October 12, 2007 1:42 PM
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It seems that the Nobel Peace Committee doesn't think that
resolution of conflicts is peace, but th new definition of peace is a lot
of waffle about how much hot air an overpopulated planet is producing.
Al Gore, a millionaire whose personal carbon footprint is many
times the average American's, is getting another few millions for "saving
the planet from war". I don't recall what war he has stopped. I don't
understand how he has made the world more peaceful. It's completely crazy.
Posted by Peter Canterbury on October 12, 2007 1:39 PM
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Westerners are retarded. What's government putting in the
water?
Posted by Charles on October 12, 2007 1:38
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Listen up! If global warming continues then some pretty
basic things are going to be in short supply. Drinking water, for
instance. Good arable land for instance. You do know what this would mean,
don't you?
Clue: "Resource wars". So here is your very tight
connection between global warming and war. Help prevent one and you
prevent the other. Got it now?
Posted by Bill Again on
October 12, 2007 1:37 PM
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A theme that should ring true, and close to home, for all
the Yankee cowboys here (suitably simplified to match the level of
intelligence on this forum). Try, if you can, to wrap your minds around
this -
1. An important driver of human conflict is intense
competition over scarce (or highly desired resources)
2. Climate
change entails a change in the distribution of some highly valuable
natural resources - like freshwater.
3. The resulting poverty is
likely to drive areas of scarcity (Africa, parts of Asia, etc.,) into
further socio-political unrest.
4. Therefore, an important driver
PREVENTING unrest is the mitigation of climate change, or at least
adaptation to it.
5. Education is the first step towards changing
policies, since we (and by we, I do not mean the United States) live in a
(supposedly) democracy-loving world.
Therefore the link between
education and peace.
Therefore the conspicuous lack of peace within
America and American 'foreign policy'.
Therefore the Peace Prize for
an environmental educator.
Geddit?
Posted by Zareen P.
Bharucha on October 12, 2007 1:37 PM
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I would have alot more respect for Gore if he didn't use 20
times the energy (at only ONE of his homes) than the average American
(those numbers came right off his elec bill). He buys carbon credits from
a company he part-owns. They even caught him lat month sneaking onto a
private jet. Limousine liberalism at it's best.
Posted by harkin on
October 12, 2007 1:34 PM
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Gunnar Berge, the then Chairman of the Nobel Prize
committee that awarded the Peace Prize to Jimmy Carter, stated in essence
that award was a "Kick in the leg" to George Bush. Perhaps the current
award is another "Kick in the leg"? So much for objectivity.
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by Rosario on October 12, 2007 1:29 PM
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Is this writer beset by an overwhelming sense of inadequacy
and purposelessness? It would seem.
Posted by hdhouse on October 12, 2007 1:25 PM
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The Pro Gore brigade are desperate to believe in 'Climate
Change' as a man-made phenomenon in order to justify the sad lifestyles
they wish to lead wearing home-made sandals and crapping in holes in the
ground (mustn't use water) while at the same time giving them the
opportunty to wring their hands and rail at the rest of us.
And the
rest of us know it is all Total Hooey.
And what exactly is our caring
government doing with the millions it raises from the £10-each-way Green
Tax it gleefully slapped on air-travellers.
Can the Greenies answer
this?
Posted by rhubarb on October 12, 2007 1:24
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It has been known for yonks that volcanoes shove more
greenhouse gas into the atmosphere in a day than industry does in a year.
The last century saw a significant increase in volcanic activity. I think
we're being conned by the likes of Al (ok then I'll be more important than
the president) Gore
Posted by John Ledbury on October 12, 2007 1:22
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There's an old scouse word for the likes of Al Gore which
is "gob****".
Goebbels had the same idea about propagande - if you say
anything loud enough and often enough it will be seen as the truth - it
was not true thanand itis not true now. Why are we so
gullible?
Posted by Peter Yarwood on October 12, 2007 1:14
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Is it April 1st already? A Noble Peace prize is given to a
failed politician for purveying fashionable propeganda; it is a
joke.
Posted by ClimateChangeIsPropaganda on October 12, 2007 1:01
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Nobel Peace Prize, who is next? I agree with Herb Cohen
book "Everything is Negotiable"
Posted by Arvind Mishra in India on
October 12, 2007 12:54 PM
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I think, given the circumstances, that he would have lost,
regardless of who voted for who. And in that case, I would think that the
verse "and having done all, to stand" is precisely what I wanted to refer
to.
Posted by Mark Grindell on October 12, 2007 12:51
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"This just serves as further confirmation that we are
indeed living in the 'Age of Stupidity'"
RE should have made it clear
that he was referring to Damian Thompson's ludicrous article.
Posted by John Rennie on October 12, 2007 12:35 PM
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"A Channel Four documentary with heavyweight contributions
ridiculed man made global warming - the culprit is the sun strange as it
may seem.
How a "peace"prize can be given for a scientific theory is
worthy of Monty Python.
Posted by Tony on October 12, 2007 10:17 AM
If you can't figure out that the global warming hoax is about
robbing us of more of our income, then I hope you look good in chains.
Posted by Tammy on October 12, 2007 10:11 AM"
Couldn't
have put it better myself. Bravo.
Posted by Andrew on October 12,
2007 12:34 PM
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Pray that Gore does not get the Nobel prize. He's done
nothing to earn it. He's just another politician telling us don't do what
I do just do as I say. Most people don't want to destroy the planet and
are doing their bit but nobody seems interested any more in "Natural
Cycles" Just in buzz words like "Global Warming" and "Climate Change"
because of course these are the things that sell papers. Global warming
isn't happening anytime soon or climate change either. I repeat natural
cycles are responsible for hotter/wetter summers than usual and
colder/milder winters. Al Gore should put his own house in order before
preaching to the rest of world.
Posted by Gina Myrie on October 12,
2007 12:31 PM
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Well now there is no doubt that the Nobel Peace prize is
completely politicised. What a waste of time. At least last year's winner
Muhammad Yunus achieved something practical making a direct difference in
people's lives. It is so easy for Gore to switch his already high profile
to whichever cause will deliver him some political capital.
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by Andrew on October 12, 2007 12:21 PM
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What the journalist does not seem to understand is
that
the Nobel prize is used to highlight issues - by
choosing AlGore its
about saying that its about time
the world took the environment
seriouslY.
Posted by franglais75 on October 12, 2007 12:16
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Nobel prize for Peace for bringing to our attention
something scores had already brought to our attention without so much
self-righteous publicity. Unbelievable.
Posted by Joe Jackson. on
October 12, 2007 12:13 PM
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He probably will win it after all another unlikely
candidate Henry Kissenger won it!!
Posted by Freedom on October 12,
2007 12:12 PM
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Mark said "Global warming has everything to do with peace.
Wars are already being fought, at least in part, over water and scarce
arable land. It's all tied together. Might want to read up on this."
Oh really Mark- where? I cant recall a single war in the last
hundred years that had anything to do with lack of water or arable land.
Politics yes, Religion yes, border disputes yes but water? The nearest I
can think of is Egypt and Sudan having a dust up about the water supplies
for the Aswan damn - but that was about hydro-electric power supplies and
was solved diplomatically, with out a shot fired. Arable or not people
have always fought over land, Hitler was the biggest culprit, but I dont
remember Global Warming being part of the Nazi rationale for invading
Poland! Global warming has nothing to do with world peace, Gore and the
IPCC winning this award is farcical. People here have poo-pooed Carter and
Arafat winning it, Begin was the other winner that year for their work on
trying to find a solution to the Israeli-Palistinian problem, a very real
and ongoing terrorist war. They didnt succeed but the commitee recognised
their efforts! I fail to see what a man who makes a fictional hollywood
film has to do with world peace, they may as well have given it the makers
for Independance Day for warning the world of the dangers of alien
invasion! This is a sad day for the credibility and stature the Nobel
peace prize. Personally I would rather it went to the peacefulty
protesting monks of Burma, or Kofi Annan in recognition of his efforts at
the UN, or anyone but Al Bore and his climate twaddle!
Posted by
David C on October 12, 2007 12:11 PM
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Only Nobel prize committee can justify this!
Al
Gore was a boring democratic candidate, who lost to Bush, Jr. Well, then
you can imagine the caliber of this Aaal Gooore!
Regards,
Posted by Krishna R. Kumar on October 12, 2007 12:05
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Mark Grindell: "There is at least one fantastic thing that
Al Gore did, that the world will thank him for forever; He stood against
George W Bush."
And lost!
Posted by Frederick Davies on October
12, 2007 11:55 AM
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This just serves as further confirmation that we are indeed
living in the 'Age of Stupidity'.
Posted by RE on October 12, 2007
11:54 AM
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I am struck by the pettiness and sheer sordid
mean-spiritedness of Gore's critics here.
As Orwell used to say,
you know a cause is worth supporting by taking a look at its enemies. What
a crew they seem to be !
Gore's film struck me as extremely
thought-provoking and wonderfully executed, even if there could be
mistakes in tackling such a big subject. But it showed a concerned and
serious and humorous man explaining life-and -death issues.
I like
Al. He is serious, and that is a disadvantage in most political systems,
especially the current US one. But he is a great man in his dignity and
idealism. I do hope he runs for President.
Posted by Ganpat Ram on
October 12, 2007 11:49 AM
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I had the impression the americans came into this game
rather late.
How curious one of their leaders should be awarded
the Nobel prize.
Posted by Freddie on October 12, 2007 11:49
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Imagine how much more peaceful the world would be had Gore
simply had the courage to fly to Florida and say "I'm not leaving until
you've counted all the votes" back in 2000.
It's pathetic that
simply making an essentially sound, but overstated, film can give someone
the chance of the Nobel gong.
Posted by Adrian Kent on October 12,
2007 11:49 AM
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The whole idea of climate change lost credibility as soon
as the government used it as an excuse to exert more control over us and
impose more taxes on us.
Posted by ian bitter on October 12, 2007
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The nobel prize put Mr. Gore in the company of other
buffoons like Mr. Arafat and is the deservedly final blow to his
reputation.
I would be curious to know whether he still thinks
that he has invented the Internet, though....
Thank God for
Dubya...
Posted by Oracle of Knightsbridge on
October 12, 2007 11:41 AM
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There is at least one fantastic thing that Al Gore did,
that the world will thank him for forever;
He stood against George
W Bush.
Posted by Mark Grindell on October 12, 2007 11:39
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Oh please not the Stern report Alex. This was a plitically
skewed interpretation of various scientists' findings,mostly taken out of
context and often with objections from those same scientists being
ignored. Stern was/is politically motivated to fit the report to the
answers he was already told to find.
It is hugely discredited by
anyone who has bothered to read a critique of it by independent
scientists.
If you want to win the argument about global warming,
whether you are Stern ot Gore, you should make sure your facts are
correct.
Posted by Stephen Rothbart on October 12, 2007 11:39
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Al Gore is a great man. It saddens me to see how people are
trying to tarnish his image. This man has done everyone a big favour by
bringing climate change to the forefront of dangers facing mankind. Me and
my friends admire Al Gore and applaud the Nobel foundation for awarding
him for his work.
Posted by Brian Armstrong on October 12, 2007
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An American receiving an award for being green? C'mon
guys.
Posted by EX-BRAT on October 12, 2007 11:22 AM
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Gore should not get this, it would be very wrong. The cause
for global warming/climete change has not beeen proven.
Posted by
emma corry on October 12, 2007 11:22 AM
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Perhaps Mr Thompson thinks the "Norwegian?" peace prize
should go to George Bush?
Posted by Frank Rutter on October 12, 2007
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Well! ...... if Al Gore got 'done' out of being the US
President by the 'Scrub' .. then he must given something !
But ..
Al Gore joins less dubious recipients..... such as Nelson Mandela (
Freedom Fighter ? .. Terrorist ? ) .. and who knows ? .. Al Gore may even
have a statue of him placed in Parliament Square ? ....
Sadly...
with this Labour Government ... anyone these days can have statues put up
in London in their honour ! .... Robert Mugabe? ... Idi Amin ? ... ( shall
I continue ? )
........
Posted by An ex-Rhodesian on
October 12, 2007 11:18 AM
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The Nobel Peace prize is a big joke especially if a serial
incompetent like Gore wins it. Wonder what he will do with the money
?
Posted by andrew cramb on October 12, 2007 11:17 AM
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Well done Mr.Gore - you've managed to degrade Nobel Prizes
to the level of Oscars, Emmy's and MTV awards!
Posted by peterj on
October 12, 2007 11:12 AM
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When global warming really gets going in the next 50 years
chaos and wars will break out across the world in an unpredictable manner.
By highlighting the coming danger Al Gore is making a big contribution
to world peace.
That is why he got the prize
Posted by jack
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I think this is the nirvana of PC hype in the case of Mr
Gore. He rehashed a decade of speeches into a film full of flaws and
highly slanted in approach - one which incidentally Britain's schools may
show to our children without a health warning or any balancing
alternatives - and gets an Oscar and now a share of the Nobel Piece Prize
(thought it didn't come easily judging by the late decision).
I
fail to link Global Warming with World Peace per se.
Posted by
simon coulter on October 12, 2007 11:08 AM
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Al "Armageddon" Gore's theories are entirely speculative
and hypothetical, not based on scientific facts.
Those who want to
keep the world (and everything that's living on it) exactly the same as it
is now, are wasting their time- and our money, under the guise of "green
taxes".
No-one can outdo Mother Nature. The world has been undergoing
changes since the day it came into existence. It is not going to stop
changing now just to please Al Gore supporters and the Green
movement.
Posted by Rob Crosbie on October 12, 2007 11:02
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The first (that I've seen, anyway) International award for
effort to save the planet - rubbish! rubbish! rubbish!
Nature is
creating climate change, has done so before, and will do so again.
Politicians just jump on the bandwaggon. They don't miss a
chance.
Posted by Brough on October 12, 2007 10:53 AM
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Well, that proves it. The Nobel peace committee is entirely
predictable, unlike the earth's climate.
Posted by John B on
October 12, 2007 10:52 AM
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It is a paradox that many who hold the Nobel
Peace
prize in contempt as being awarded by a
panel of pinko subverts still
allow themselves to
be outraged by the the fact that pinko subverts
almost inevitably win.
Posted by Guy Thornton on October 12,
2007 10:52 AM
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Good to see some 'Climate Change' fanatics posting here. I
note that the theory has amended its title from Global warming to Climate
Change. This is an interesting play on words as now any change in
temperature can be used as a justification for ever-increasing state
interference in people's lives, leading to a profusion of North Korean
style communities across the globe, no doubt all fronted by climate change
advocates!
In fact, it could be argued that in 2000 the Nobel
Peace Prize could legitimately have been awarded to Kim Jong-il, when it
was given to his South Korean counterpart, Kim Dae-Jung. Certainly he'd be
a more worthy recipient than Al Gore, a preposterous epitome of everything
that is wrong with the American left! In response to Alex of Tunbridge
Wells, the most sensible response to the Stern Report came from the OPEC
minister who desrcibed it as 'founded on a series of unproven assertions',
and I think he was being generous.
Climate Change is a profitable
racket and an excuse for leftists to intervene in people's private
affairs. Were Gore to win the Nobel Peace prize it would merely confirm
how entrenched these people are in the global establishment, and how
urgent the need is to remove them!
Posted by T Dan Smith on October
12, 2007 10:29 AM
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The Nobel peace prize has gone to some weird people in the
past, such as Kissinger and Arafat. Accept the fact that, unlike with
scientific prizes, it is not awarded on the basis of excellence, but often
for political reasons. I don't think much of Gore's views or how he
presents them, but he's not the biggest freak out there.
Posted by
Clothilde Simon on October 12, 2007 10:21 AM
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It is depressing how many people believe this rubbish about
man-made global warming! It is like a new religion. And while naive,
criminally obtuse and well-meaning citizens tremble at the prospect of
doom, politicians have an excuse to raise taxes while "scientists" and
campaigners (vide Al Gore) enjoy media coverage, funding and enhanced job
security.
Posted by Alex Koller on October 12, 2007 10:20
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"some people believe that it's unscientific to base future
predictions on the past"
Making predictions based on past
observation and testing them is the whole point of the scientific
method.
The alternative is to make predictions based on
unsupported faith (or to give up caring what might happen in the future).
Of course if you don't believe in science, that it has generally worked
well so far won't mean anything, but that doesn't excuse not knowing what
it is.
Posted by Alan Braggins on October 12, 2007 10:18
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A Channel Four documentary with heavyweight contributions
ridiculed man made global warming - the culprit is the sun strange as it
may seem.
How a "peace"prize can be given for a scientific theory is
worthy of Monty Python.
Posted by Tony on October 12, 2007 10:17
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If you can't figure out that the global warming hoax is
about robbing us of more of our income, then I hope you look good in
chains.
Posted by Tammy on October 12, 2007 10:11
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One of the effects of Global Warming will be more wars. As
the world's land masses shrink because of the projected water level
rising, people will become displaced. Food and clean drinking water will
become more scarce which will lead to fighting over resources. This is why
Global Warming is tied to the Peace Prize.
I enjoy reading the
hate filled writings of people who can not stand the thought of Al Gore
being awarded such an prize. It fills me with great joy to know the
discomfort they must feel knowing that people of the world respect him
while despising the current American President. It appears they continue
to attempt to hide their own shame for following a callous and arrogant
human being as GW Bush by continually attacking former Vice President
Gore. Thanks for the laughs.
Posted by Gabrielle on October 12, 2007
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Hey, if that buffoon Carter, and the late unlamented
terrorist Arafat, can win Peace Prizes then the things are already
devalued; giving one to Al Bore would just throw another shovel of dirt
into the grave.
Posted by Eric on October 12, 2007 10:00
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About as much as the International Atomic Energy Agency did
in their "their efforts to prevent nuclear energy from being used for
military purposes" two years ago.
Posted by Alan Black on October
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Global warming certainly exists; man-made global warming
almost certainly exists, if in nothing like the quantities peddled by the
climate scare lobby. But if a prize is deserved for man-made global
warming it should be for the scientific scandal of the 20th/21st century,
of how so many "scientists" have prostituted their calling in the service
of grants, influence and fame by jumping on the "how can I come up with a
higher/scarier prediction than anyone else" bandwagon.
(Yes there
is a consensus amongst "climate scientists" that catastrophic man-made
global warming exists. But then there's also a pretty firm consensus in
the College of Cardinals (theological experts all) that God exists. And I
don't believe in him either!)
Posted by Phil on October 12, 2007
9:57 AM
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People who believe Al Gore's global warming crap are just
envy-ridden losers.
Posted by Tim on October 12, 2007 9:48
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"I am unconvinced by lying politicians, over-zealous
doomsters, axe-grinding vegetarians, America -haters, motorphobes, - and
lefties. "
How about giving the international climatology
community a try then. Every major and minor scientific organization is a
part of this concensus.
link
The rest of the world impatiently awaits
you (and the FoxNews viewers here in the US) in reality. See you soon I
hope.
Posted by Mark on October 12, 2007 9:47 AM
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Nils (and others) - read the article again. Your points are
valid but they in no way relate to peace. This is the crux of the article
(underneath the character assassination bits). I am sure there are awards
which would be suitable for a man who may have 'won' a disputed election
and then flew around the world with the laudible aim of helping his fellow
man (whilst making a good living from him) but I agree with the Mr
Thompson that The Nobel Prize for Peace is perhaps not one of
them.
Posted by Simon Moore on October 12, 2007 9:46 AM
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Saving Greenland? From thawing? I blew my coffee all over
my screen.
Maybe when greenland thaws, all thinking non-parasites
can form a governmentless society. We can call it
evil-selfish-people-land. We can hire Al Gore for comic relief.
Posted by Terry on October 12, 2007 9:43 AM
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To various posters:
Mr Gore's is a public figure
and what he says and does in public is open for debate and comment. Just
because you think the sun shines from his posterior does not make his
public persona immune to scutiny. Live with it - its called liberal
Western democracy.
Posted by Peter Burke on October 12, 2007 9:43
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Peace Scholar Picks Thich Quang Do As 2007 Nobel Peace
Prize Recipient
San Francisco, CA – October 11, 2007 -- “If I had
to pick who will win this year’s Nobel Peace Prize, I’d go with Vietnamese
monk Thich Quang Do,” declares Scott A. Hunt, peace scholar and author of
the award-winning book The Future of Peace: On the Front Lines with the
World’s Great Peacemakers. “He’s the real deal -- a courageous, steadfast,
peacemaker who, against seemingly insurmountable odds, has spent decades
advocating for peace, justice, and religious freedom. He’s been
imprisoned, interrogated, threatened, denounced, banished, and placed
under house arrest, and still he has continued his struggle.
”
Posted by Joe on October 12, 2007 9:41 AM
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Neil Jones, all the following is from memory! I didn't even
have to look up Wikipedia (which I recommend). The hypertext transfer
protocol and hypertext markup language were invented by Tim Berners-Lee at
CERN (on NeXT hardware and software, the company Steve Jobs ran between
leaving Apple and rejoining it). The internet arose from the ARPANet,
where a few _US_ defence establishments and universities were connected in
a packet-switched network designed to be resilient to node failure. The UK
and Europe have made important contributions to the development of modern
communications, but it was the US that invented the Internet. In fact,
Berners-Lee's HTTP built on the work of Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn,
Americans, who invented TCP/IP, though Cerf on TV acknowledge that he
built on the groundwork of UK scientists.
Posted by John Ferguson on
October 12, 2007 9:41 AM
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The bears did not drown...They were pushed.
Of
course AlGore will win the prize. The Establishment terrorists will see to
it.
Posted by John on October 12, 2007 9:37 AM
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Global warming has everything to do with peace. Wars are
already being fought, at least in part, over water and scarce arable land.
It's all tied together. Might want to read up on this.
As for the
internet, DARPA had nothing to do with commercializing the interconnected
networks that became the WWW. It was/is a military endeavor. I have no
doubt though that CERN played a huge part in the internet's development
too. It was by definition a collective worldwide effort. However Gore's
championing it in the US Congress was a huge boost back when few outside
of the military and scientific communities even knew about
it.
Posted by Mark on October 12, 2007 9:36 AM
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Neil Jones has got it the wrong way round. The Americans
invented the Internet and the CERN laboratory (or more specifically Sir
Tim) invented the web.
Posted by Jez B on October 12, 2007 9:30
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The Nobel prize is awarded by the Swedish
Academy.
Posted by Colette McIntyre on October 12, 2007 9:28
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The theory of man-made global warming is a prediction about
the future based on the interpretation of 'evidence' about the past. Some
people dispute the 'evidence', some people dispute the interpretation, and
some people believe that it's unscientific to base future predictions on
the past. If the theory proves to be incorrect - and only time will tell -
then the Nobel Peace Prize will fall into disrepute if it was shown to
have been awarded to a political opportunist.
Posted by Brenda on
October 12, 2007 9:09 AM
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No Neil Jomnes - 6:26
Americans didn't invent the
Word Wide web either. A British scientist, Tim Berners-Lee did that in
1989.
Posted by Nick Meredith on October 12, 2007 9:03 AM
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You really don't like Gore do you? This isn't the first
time the Telegraph has published vitriol against him in the name of
"Comment".
Global warming is at the centre of politicians agendas
worldwide. Countries are working together to try and solve the problem. So
from that perspective it has been useful for World Peace, let alone saving
Pieces of the Earth (like Greenland).
Gore has won an emmy &
an oscar for leading a campaign that has brought a vital issue to the
forefront of the world's mind. He deserves praise, not a spiteful attack
from someone so pitiful & jealous that they inspire pity (as well as
anger) from the reader.
Posted by Jonathan on October 12, 2007 9:01
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Amusing responses, but almost invariably from folk with
entrenched views.
I was unaware that the government had pushed the Al
Gore film at schools; looks like Stalinism to me. What on earth is going
on here? Global warming may be a fact (witness rising temperatures on
Mars), probably occasioned by cyclic solar activity.
But the casual
link with carbon emissions is unproven, although unquestioningly accepted
by politicians. If it is indeed solar activity, our feeble attempts to
change our light bulbs is as nothing compared to the release of methane
from the permafrost.
Incidentally, why have those low-lying Pacific
islands not disappeared?
I am unconvinced by lying politicians,
over-zealous doomsters, axe-grinding vegetarians, America -haters,
motorphobes, - and lefties.
When is the DT going to give us some
balanced, authorititive, scientific findings on this matter. If Mars is
warming - by how much and how does it compare with Earth. If the Pacific
islands have failed to inundate, where has all the melt-water gone?
As
a respected national newspaper, you have a duty to provide a respected
forum on this subject and let's get it sorted.
As for Al Gore, pass
the sick-bag.
Posted by Graham King on October 12, 2007 8:57
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Neil Jones:
"Just for your future reference no-one in
America
invented the Internet. It was invented by British
scientists working at the CERN Laboratories in
the middle of
Europe."
The internet was invented in America (though
British
inventors have a good claim on packet
switching, the technology on
which it is based).
One of the uses of the Internet, the world-web
web, was invented at CERN by Tim Berners-Lee.
Posted by Neil
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Read the Stern report. This highlights the economic and
human cost that global warming will occur, and predicts that these costs
will outweigh the mitigation costs.
By bringing global warming to
the attention of the public, and hence the politicians, Al Gore has made
action on this more likely. This will bring major benefits in future,
quite worthy of a nobel prize.
Posted by Alex, Tunbridge Wells on
October 12, 2007 7:42 AM
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Errr... Neil Jones, I think that you have it the wrong way
round. The Internet did, in fact, result from DARPA funded research in the
USA. Later, Tim Berners Lee et al at CERN invented the World Wide Web.
Or, to put it another way, Internet =/= WWW.
Posted by Rob
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Just for your future reference no-one in America invented
the Internet. It was invented by British scientists working at the CERN
Laboratories in the middle of Europe. What the USA (Al Gore included) did
was work out a way of making money from the technology by creating the
World Wide Web on it.
It's what he's good at, lining his pockets
with other peoples inventions.
Posted by Neil Jones on October 12, 2007 6:26 AM
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What a mean-spirited personal attack on your part. Al Gore
has achieved a lot more in his life than you have. He has gone from having
won the popular vote for U.S. President to trying to help all of humankind
with his message about global warming. I hope he does win the Peace
prize.
Posted by Nils Greger Olsson on October 12, 2007 4:57
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This paper has spent much of the last decade allying itself
with climate change deniers, including some incredibly dishonest sorts.
Whether or not Al Gore deserves any prize at all is besides the
point. Perhaps the Telegraph will fiddle while Rome burns.
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Aaron Clausen on October 12, 2007 4:39 AM
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Wow. Talk about reaching for criticisms. This editorial
takes the cake. Did you even see the documentary, Damian?
Gore
didn't "predict" a 20-foot sea level rise, he merely stated that that is
what we would see if 100% of the current ice melted. Unlikely in our
lifetime, but not impossible. If you have any appreciation for the
behavior that non-linear positive feedback systems (of which melting ice
and the concomitant raising of polar albedo can be said to be one) can
exhibit, you cannot rule it out as a possibility. A remote one still at
this stage, but we're doing our best to muck things up so who knows what
20 years from now will hold.
The complaint about the "exact fit"
line is pretty desperate. This was a documentary for widespread layperson
consumption. If he had started quoting correlation coefficients and
modelling parameters he would have quickly lost 99% of the intended
audience. Of course virtually no real-world correlations ever give an r =
1.0 - the universe is simply too noisy. The carbon-temperature linkage in
recent history is about as "exact" as you ever get in science. It is
startling, in fact.
The beef about Gore's statements about his
very real role in cultivating the agency (DARPA) that largely made the
early internet happen is simply thin and tired. Ditto for his quoted # of
town hall meetings. As for the carbon footprint mantra we're hearing about
him, I don't know the details but I highly suspect they are exaggerated
for the purposes of political attack. Like the Swift Boat BS in 2004
against John Kerry. Unfortunately there are Republican operatives in this
country who will stop at nothing to tar and smear their opponents by
inventing any manner of garbage (rubbish). Sadly, many of my fellow
American readers simply lack the sophistication to know when they are
being manipulated (see the 2004 election of a man who so clearly lied to
them about the most important matters a Commander-in-chief is entrusted
with).
Posted by Mark on October 12, 2007 2:03 AM
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I admire Al Gore but his film does not even mention that
the inhumane beef, pork, poultry lamb and fishing industries cause more
pollution and global warming than all the emissions produced by cars,
trains, plains and boats.
Jane Goodall merits a Nobel Peace Prize
for her tireless work to protect endangered species, wildlife habitas and
marine and terrestrial ecosystems.
Posted by Brien Comerford on
October 12, 2007 1:44 AM
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I went to see Al Gore speak last Tuesday, and someone there
mentioned that he was up for the Nobel Peace Prize. One question
immediately popped into my head. What did Al Gore ever do for world peace?
I mean preaching the evils of global warming is nice and all, but the
Nobel Prize? That's kind of a stretch. I'm surprised that more people in
the media aren't asking this question. They just seem to be speculating on
whether receiving the prize will cause him to run for
president.
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